福尔摩斯：基本演绎法第二季

 


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[存档]Steven Moffat - Elementary has changed Sherlock Holmes too much


The co-creator of BBC1’s Sherlock suggests the Jonny Lee Miller series is too far removed from the original storiesComments Share this episode
 
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The new show, currently in production for American network CBS, brings Jonny Lee Miller’s detective to modern-day Manhattan, alongside Lucy Liu’s female Watson. And Moffat, who together with Mark Gatiss brought Sherlock Holmes up to date for the BBC, says it could be a step too far.

“What we did with our Sherlock was just take it from Victorian times into modern day," he said. "[Elementary has] got three big changes: it's Sherlock Holmes in America, it's Sherlock Holmes updated and it's Sherlock Holmes with a female Watson. I wonder if he's Sherlock Holmes in any sense other than he's called Sherlock Holmes.”

Moffat even had some suggestions as to how CBS might have gone about the job better: “It's almost like they should have made Watson a woman but kept the show in Victorian times... that would actually be quite interesting," he told TheInsider.com. [摩法特果然灵光！]

Moffat will at least be relieved to discover that Elementary does not follow Sherlock too closely, since he and the show’s executive producer, his wife Sue Vertue, initially expressed concerns when the US series was announced.

Having turned down an offer from CBS to be involved in an American version of Sherlock, they had been worried that Elementary would be just that.

"It's a slightly odd situation because [CBS] approached us to do an adaptation and we declined, then, coincidentally, they announced they were doing an updated version of Sherlock Holmes," said Moffat.

And although he says Elementary is different from Sherlock, he still has misgivings [we all have such misgivings---唉！] about the effect it might have on the Sherlock Holmes legacy: "I don't want it to sound like Mark [Gatiss] and I don't want other people to try this. We welcome it, but don't damage the brand," he said.

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福尔摩斯不是你家的好吗？指手画脚真的合适？另外转载的作者：他灵光个脑袋？正因为在21世纪所以女性是完全可接受的，道尔当年当然也可以写女医生，不过当时流行的就是同性朋友间情谊（看其他文学作品即知）。就和化学反应的那个活化能模型一样，“21世纪”就是那个峰值，随后的女性啊，执照问题啊，都是顺理成章的。而19世纪与女性是反的，结合在一起反而不稳定。MOFFUCKER你提这个蠢建议是吃英国菜吃多了吗？而且你总关注性别这种原始的问题算个鬼？还有刘华生比你家那位小媳妇性格成天只打听福的情感问题的爷们了更配得上并肩战友的称谓你怎么不说？再有你们有资格说CBS吗？人家在87年和94年就拍完两部现代福+女华生了，那时候你们还在吃翔吧？再再有，一副“现代福是我们的创意”的高姿态不能更讨厌，不说更早的，你将BR福置于何处？

We have spilled much ink,you and I,in our discussion of human connection...

and we're no closer to understanding than we were when the correspondence began.

I often feel as if I'm standing on one side of a wide chasm shouting across, and wondering if the response I hear comes from you,or if it is my own voice echoing back to me.

It seems to me, on my side of the canyon,that the search for unity with another is the font of much of the world's unhappiness.

I watch as Waston, eager as ever to extract some meaning from the prevailing social conventions endures a series of curated mating rituals.

It seems to me that she's incrementally less content each time she returns from one.

I conduct myself as though I'm above matters of the heart, chiefly because I have seen them corrode people I respect.

But in my candid moments, I sometimes wander if I take the stance I do because love,
for lack of abetter world, is a game I fail to understand,and so I opt not to play.

After all, if I truly had the purity of all my convictions, I wouldn't regret so many of the things i've done.

Nor would I persist against so many of my better instincts in this correspondence.

 I find you a challenge,one that, in spite of all that you've done,continues to stimulate
And so the conversation, futile though it may finally be,continues,and we are left to wonder:have we simply failed to find the answers to the questions the preoccupy us...
or can tey not be answered at all?

Fortunately for both of us, the world always presents the next diversion...the next elaborate distraction from the problems that vex.

精选集（持续更新）：
http://www.xiami.com/song/showcollect/id/25238962

（这一季除了Exit Music，插曲也很精彩呢）

E1：
The Village -Tunng
Hello - Oasis
London Calling - The Clash
The Son Never Shines (On Closed Doors) - Flogging Molly
Follow Follow - Tunng

E2：
Sea of Air - Portugal. The Man

E3：
The Load - Barbarossa

E4:
State of the Art (A.E.I.O.U.) - Jim James

E5(无)

E6:
Heal - Tom Odell

E7:
Ante up - AgesandAges（新歌，暂未发行）
Follow My Feet - The Unlikely Cadidates

E8：
Unofferable - Half Moon Run

E9：
Time Is on My Side -- The Rolling Stones

E10(无)

E11：
Hurt -- Johnny Cash

E12：
The Crooked Kind -- Radical Face

E13：
On the Other Side -- The Rocketboys

E14：
Better Now -- The Vespers

E15(无)

E16：
Bad Day -- Daniel Powter

E17：
Confidence -- The Dodos

E18：
Walking With The Beast -- Primal Scream

E19：
Rudie Can't Fail -- The Clash
Break The Walls -- Fitz and The Tantrums
Leave It Alone -- Broken Bells

E20:
Wrapped In My Memory -- Shawn Smith

E21:
Never Be That Tough -- Simone White

E22:
Fall In Love -- Phantogram

E23:
Escape Artist -- Zoe Keating

E24(无)

    等这周出新去刷了一下贴吧，发现喜欢英剧sherlock的鄙视美版elementary。不就是看个剧么有必要这么冷艳高贵惹不起？

    在我眼里，两版本各有千秋。必须承认的是英版的编剧很强大，摄影很强大，之前有个人扒过随便定格一帧就是一画。但要是美版福尔摩斯也按照英版套路来拍的话就完全不靠谱嘛╮(╯_╰)╭基本这个版本显然更符合生活在现代美国的福尔摩斯形象。记得本季第一集二人组跑去伦敦办案，美剧镜头下的伦敦跟英剧镜头下的伦敦都不一样，我看的时候第一时间就感到了反差，英剧里的伦敦仿佛并不在现代，依然充满着真正的福尔摩斯存在的那个时代的种种影子，雾蒙蒙阴沉沉，但基本演绎法里的伦敦是明媚的，阳光灿烂，就像基本里的福尔摩斯，有点呆萌愣头，同时也生机勃勃，更像现代的nerd。英福尔摩斯身上有着更多的老旧做派，更多的自恋，技能神乎其神，一直在开着挂。但美版的这个从精神上来说才更现代，更与时俱进，而且才更像青年福尔摩斯，通过推理演绎案情，但也会算错也会失手也会总觉得稍显别扭的道歉而且是个花袜控，各种穿着花袜踩地板（就算是天才少年时期青年时期跟中年时期也是不同的，并且即便演绎推理技能再牛逼福尔摩斯也是个人啊）。而在我的印象里英版的花生存在感并不是很强（相较福尔摩斯，也比较符合原著吧，毕竟原著也并非双男主设定，华生的存在是陪衬福尔摩斯，侧写福尔摩斯）。美版则既然都改到现代了，连福尔摩斯的老旧绅士作派都改了不如改的更彻底更现代更亮人耳目，连华生也变成了女人（19世纪的女权和21世纪的女权状况必然不同），跟福尔摩斯一起进出罪案现场，推理演绎技能也蹭蹭蹭的涨啊，不久就能独当一面了。我觉得这个女版设定很赞（又不滚床单，没恋情戏，不知道后面会不会有恋情戏发展，最好不要啊，谁说男女之间不能有朋友感情的啊），既然是现代福尔摩斯，有个女搭档也并非不合理，况且lucy liu的出演也蹭蹭蹭的加好感。在麦麸有理双男主设定快要独霸天下的英美剧里，有这么一部不立志于讨好腐女的现代福尔摩斯剧集，是多么难的啊。总而言之，除了麦麸那里，英版没有美版现代气息浓厚！
    当然我当初看英版的时候也是惊艳一把大萌缺妞，到现在缺妞一直都是我的墙头，虽然总被人吐槽马脸，但我还是眼瞎了的觉得是个美人儿。一直对英版的华生无感就是了。打分的话这个版本的分肯定比bbc低啦，一个三集片，第三季到现在我苦等啊苦等还没出来，一个一季二十多集还扬言要拍八季，从编剧跟制作配乐等角度讲还是bbc出品必属精品。
    不过要是非得跟原著比那两个版本都好闭嘴了，就是个电视剧而已大家看的开心就好了呗，你不爱看的又不是不能选择不看。