长篇影评
1 ) 转载女主角Dree Hemingway关于电影的访谈
很喜欢这部片子和Dree 转载访谈,帮助理解片子台前幕后,没看错av场面果然是替身然后剪得真不错。好有趣的制作过程耶,原来去参加色情业展会是真的,使用隐藏拍摄,很多人以为女主就是pornstar然后各种~~ 哈哈,不过no judgement也是棒棒哒。dree也聊到很多关于自己家族的事情,喜欢她的低调单纯,而且做出了一部好片子,这是我看她的第一部,很偶然找到的。翻译就不做了,我觉得最直接的理解是看原文,给几个关键词,有兴趣的自己理解。
body double 替身;improvisational 即兴的;scatterbrained
注意力不集中
The young actress talks to THR about her burgeoning acting career as well as how she copes with bearing the last name of one of the world's most famed writers.
正文
As much as she'd probably like to avoid it, the first line in Dree Hemingway's biography probably would note that she is the great-granddaughter of famed writer Ernest Hemingway and the daughter of actress Mariel Hemingway. But with a few more movies like Starlet, her first leading feature role, that just might change.
Hemingway, 25, plays Jane, a flighty, listless woman in her early 20s living in Los Angeles with her friend and the friend's boyfriend. She flits about through her days, smoking weed and shopping and taking her Chihuahua wherever she goes. She might seem like a low-rent Paris Hilton, but she has more depth than it appears at first glance.
Film Review: Starlet
When she buys a thermos for a dollar at a yard sale from an old woman, she finds $10,000 rolled up inside. After trying to return the thermos to the cantankerous octogenarian, who refuses, she decides to at least befriend the lonely widow, Sadie. This is easier said than done, though the two eventually form an odd relationship. It is one built partially on lies; Jane doesn't tell Sadie about the money, or the fact that she works as a porn actress -- something kept from the audience through much of the movie, as well.
THR recently spoke to Hemingway about the film and her famous bloodlines.
The Hollywood Reporter: What happened in your interview with director Sean Baker?
Dree Hemingway: I’m so passionate about this character, but a lot of it was how I perceived her and who I thought she was and to clarify if I’d do the porn scene. And really wanting to assure me that they’d use a body double and just wanting to make sure I’d be comfortable with the whole situation. And everything he was saying about the character was something I had thought of, and there were things that I wanted to bring, and it was really nice. And what really hooked it was the communication between us.
THR: So you weren’t uncomfortable with the porn thing?
Hemingway: I mean, it freaked me out, I’m not going to lie. I think I was so passionate about the whole story that it’s kind of something that it needed. It freaked me out, but also knowing that it wasn’t me was kind of OK for me -- although I’m not in denial that people are going to think it’s me because a lot of people don’t watch the end credits, and it’s really well cut. But as much as it scares me, and is such a scary thing to do, it’s such a neat film that I think that one ending scene is kind of the most perfect ending for any movie, and I just love it. … I’m not a huge fan of porn, but I really wanted to embrace the world from a different perspective, where it’s not a tragedy, it’s not coming from a tragic place.
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THR: How much of the film was improv?
Hemingway: Most of it was improvisational, to be honest. It was like, we were given some lines, and you always had to know where you were going to end up in the scene, but a lot of it was improvisational. A lot of it was scary in a way that you can’t really craft. But it’s actually one of the most fun things I’ve ever done. You really have to be present in the situation that you’re in because a lot of time you were working with real people, who didn’t know until they were done working with us that they were on film and working with actors.
THR: Which points were that?
Hemingway: The whole entire porn convention. We had a hidden camera. I had a hidden mic. People thought I was a real porn star at a real booth. All those people talking to me.
THR: So they were just big porn enthusiasts.
Hemingway: They all kept coming up to me and saying: “I really love your movies. I want to work with you.” And I was like, 'Let’s go!' It’s so weird and crazy. And all those people playing bingo, we just stood in the bingo hall.
THR: Was anyone upset about being caught on camera?
Hemingway: A lot of people at the porn convention were really upset that they were on camera. Some of them were like parents, and some of these guys were like, “I’m a schoolteacher.” And you’re like, OK. … But the thing is, there is no judgment on them because they are just the ones that have the balls to get their asses off the computer and go to an actual porn convention. Which I have to say is kind of hilarious and really fun.
THR: Really?
Hemingway: Yeah. It’s an adult amusement park.
THR: It’s like a Comic-Con but for porn.
Hemingway: Exactly! It’s just like Comic-Con. You get some whacked, crazy people, but it’s so much fun. I think if you come to it from a point of not taking it seriously -- a lot of these people go, and they’re there to see one porn star whom they’re obsessed with -- but if that’s not your basis, it is a fun time. It’s hilarious.
THR: What would you do if you found that money, in that situation?
Hemingway: Oh, I’m such a guilty person, I’d totally give it back.
THR: No hesitation?
Hemingway: I mean obviously, I think that part of me would want to keep it in a way because it’d be like, oh I found it, and it’s -- what is that saying? Finder's keepers? But no, even if I’d try to do that, I’m too guilty. I remember when I was 14, I stole a little bracelet from a vendor, like an outside cart vendor, it was me being rebellious, and I had a lot of friends who loved to steal ChapSticks and little things, and so it was me trying to include myself in the situation. So I stole this bracelet. And I had it for a full day, but I couldn’t wear it because I felt so guilty. So when I wasn’t with my friends, I went and brought it back.
THR: So you are Ernest Hemingway’s great-granddaughter? Did you ever feel pressure to be a writer?
Hemingway: I would never write, ever. I might as well exile myself.
THR: Why?
Hemingway: Because it’s like, if I were related to Monet, I don’t know if I would be comfortable becoming an artist because it’s too much, the comparison. If I wrote a book and put it out, the comparison to my great-grandfather, the comparison would be hilarious. Every critic, it would be their dream, they’d tear me apart. I’m just not a confident writer, either. I feel like I can’t make sense of things in a way. I’m so scatterbrained when I write.
THR: Do people ask you to?
Hemingway: People ask me all the time. And my mother is an actress, and my aunt Margaux was a model. And it’s funny, as much as I’m all about I’m my own person, and I’m making my own name for myself, I have grown up in a world where most of these people who are like me are children of famous parents. So it’s easy to become the socialite and be famous for that. But my whole thing was, as much as I was inspired by what my parents do, and growing up on film sets, watching that made me really want to do that. I am my own person, and I think that the only thing with the Hemingway name is that it has gotten me in the door. But once you’re in there, I know I’m under a huge microscope, and everything you do, people are going through it with a fine-toothed comb and picking at you.
So it’s great, it gets you in there, but once you do, you’ve got to f---ing prove yourself. The modeling, I think it’s different because they don’t give a f---, it’s harder to get in there with a name already, and I think I had to prove myself, and it didn’t matter who I was. But I don’t feel like I’m competing against anything in my family; I’m so honored to be a part of it, but I also know I am my own self, and I’m not riding anyone’s coattails because I know I really worked for something.
2 ) 谢谢你的成全
一个老妪和一个女青年的人生,在命运的奇妙安排下产生了交集,在艰难崎岖的沟通过程中,实现了各自的成全。
她(Sadie)是个独居的老妇,个性顽固,没有朋友,过着枯燥简单重复的生活。习惯性的三餐,购物,娱乐活动也只是每周六去玩简单的赌博游戏bingo。
她(Jane)是个生活拮据而又做着明星梦的女青年,有一个吸毒成瘾的妈妈。她和朋友,朋友的男友合住在一间公寓里,想要改造一下卧室却没钱买新家具,只能去淘一些旧货。在Sadie卖出的旧暖水瓶里,她发现了一万块,她不安又兴奋,瞒着朋友偷偷地把钱藏好,去做了指甲(吐槽一下美帝人工费真惊人,做个指甲460刀),给狗狗买了漂亮的配饰。她旁敲侧击的咨询她的朋友,如果遇到这种事要怎么做。朋友的看法是,确认这笔钱对失主是不是非常重要。她特意去接近Sadie,故意打发走等待Sadie的计程车,然后邀请Sadie“搭顺风车”,她跑到她周六玩bingo的地点玩只有老年人才热衷的无聊游戏。结果被Sadie当做是骗子,惨遭防狼喷雾的蹂躏。从警察那得知她只是“出于好心”后,Sadie逐渐打开了心门,接受了她接送超市的便车。通过交谈得知,Sadie的赌徒丈夫去世了,也没有儿女,暖水瓶里的钱应该是赌徒丈夫之前藏匿其中的,但老妇并不知情。通过一段时间的接触,两个人逐渐产生了信任与微妙的感情。Jane更加了解了Sadie的过去,她甚至带Sadie去公墓祭奠亡夫,去Sadie第一次和丈夫见面的动物园。而Sadie依然固执,敏感,从她注销了驾照和对其他老人驾车闯祸的描述,可以看出她对于余生并无希冀,早已认输服老。在一次Jane被超市保安因停车问题驱赶后,购物回来的Sadie没有等到Jane,以为Jane抛下了她,想要走回家里。当时她的心里,一定是充满了伤感,以为她的人生又一次的枯萎了,如同她布满皱纹的脸庞,刚刚建立的存在感被消除殆尽。Jane驱车追上了她,说道“你真的以为我会抛下你吗?”也许是她感受到了Sadie心里的变化,Jane握住了Sadie枯瘦的手,Sadie的心里,一定非常的温暖。
Jane的合租朋友因为工资问题和老板大吵,让Jane过去帮忙理论。通过这个机会,Jane的朋友认识了同车的Sadie,Jane和朋友的工作也在随后暴露大吉,原来Jane和合租朋友都是成人片的女主,这会儿有一段露骨的拍摄过程。虽然不露也能交代清楚,但直接的视觉刺激应该会让观众更加震撼,这份工作既解释了为什么Jane会有那么多空余时间,又形成了一个强大的心理落差,毕竟这是一个敏感的工作,两个完全完全不同世界的人,互相信任是多么多么的不易!之前有个小小的伏笔,Jane和Sadie一起吃冰淇淋的时候,有两个男人隔着透明玻璃墙认出了她,她还做出了香艳的舔吸动作挑逗那两个男人。对于她们的工作室,Jane对Sadie的解释是,“你可以理解为一个临时中介。”
Jane因为工作的原因(参加成人展),没时间照顾狗狗,她把狗狗托付给Sadie。不听话的狗狗走失了,Sadie急的要发疯了,她不能辜负Jane的信任,她四处打听询问,终于在Jane回来前找到了狗狗。但她的心和身体都疲惫不堪,她无法承受这一切,她宁愿回复到以前平淡无味,回到对年老的无可奈何与认输的生活,她无法承受任何失去了。她呵斥Jane离开,Jane一头雾水却无可奈何。想到Sadie曾对她说,她对巴黎有独特的情怀却从来没有去过,Jane用那笔“不义之财”的大部分预定了去巴黎的机票,冲到Sadie玩bingo的场所,极力邀请。Sadie拒绝了,如同她过去的bingo游戏经历,她一直输,她认输了,如同对待生活。但Jane没有放弃,她要和Sadie打一个赌,如果她能在这局bingo中赢的话,Sadie就要和她同去巴黎。Jane购买了所有的表格,理论来说,只要她够快,就可以bingo。没想到先bingo的却是Sadie。Sadie开心地大叫,仿佛这一次胜利驱散了过去阴霾和失败的人生。尽管Jane没有赢得赌局,Sadie却同意了去巴黎的邀请,这应该是Jane的真诚与热情,感动鼓舞了她吧。
剧情再度转折,Jane的朋友发现了这笔意外之财,她认为Jane应该与她,这个最好的朋友分享。但Jane却要和她口中的老婊子同去巴黎,愤怒的她找到Sadie,告诉她,Jane之所以对你好是因为她通过你不知道的方式得到了你的钱,对你有愧疚感。Sadie的表情并不强烈,她只是把本来和Jane一起挑选的,要去巴黎穿的衣服拿出来,丢到衣柜里,但她内心的情感变化,想必非常剧烈。就如同上次在超市门口没有等到Jane一 样,她感到自己再一次被抛弃了,这次更加彻底,痛苦。看到这里我就在猜编剧会怎么安排,Sadie是会消失?痛斥Jane?他选择了理解与原谅。
来接Sadie去机场的Jane也发现了她的不寻常,虽然Jane还不知道发生了什么,她几次询问Sadie是否ok,Sadie只是让拜托Jane去公墓给逝去的老公送花。这一次,Sadie没有亲自前往,而是借口你更快一些,委托Jane过去。这里,Jane在墓碑上发现,Sadie曾经有一个夭折的女儿,影片在此结束。
整个片子节奏平缓,但几处情感的波折都能打动人心,不同世界的两个人如何褪去坚硬的保护外壳,逐渐走进对方内心,互相理解,互相取暖。缺失母爱的Jane生活拮据但充满了梦想,她善良,热爱自己的工作,幻想着某一天能成为明星,她从Sadie处找到了家人的感觉,重新找到一个女儿的身份。在千篇一律的乏味生活中等待死亡的Sadie则在Jane这里重新建立了与其他人的联系与存在感,唤起了生活的热情与希望,点燃了久已熄灭的梦想,也像一个母亲。也许她们都想对对方说一 句,谢谢你的成全。
3 ) 嗯?这部好于92%的「情色片」很高级吗?
好于92%的情色片?
抱着无比强大的“上进心”,本人走进了这部电影——
《待绽蔷薇》
豆瓣7.5
简是一名二十刚出头的姑娘,样貌身材出众。
她怀揣着演员梦,独自在异地打拼。
搬新家时,囊中羞涩的她跑去跳蚤市场置办家具。
在老太太桑迪那买了一个古董暖瓶,准备当花瓶。
在插花时,她发现瓶里有一卷一卷的钱。
足足一万美金。
简的日常就是和室友一起等经纪人电话。
有戏就去拍,没有就在家嗑药。
这笔巨款,无法让她不在意。
她和狗狗“小明星”躺在钱上,满足着突然到来的喜悦。
做400块的美甲,买各种自己喜欢的东西。
还给“小明星”配了条闪闪发光的链子。
血拼一场后,她有点自责。
回忆起卖自己暖瓶的老太太,看装扮好像并不富裕,这一万美金会不会是她余生的积蓄?
怀着这份心思,她去敲老太太的门,希望物归原主。
售出概不退换。
老太太显得很抗拒,门都没开就拒绝了送壶的简。
还有把财神爷拦外面的,简显得十分气愤。
为此她问了室友一个“此地无银三百两”的傻问题,这也预示着“巨款”会被室友发现。
如果你捡到一万美金,而且确定失主并不知道钱的事,你会怎么办?
那就看看失主是否缺钱,如果不缺就自己留着。
简决定接近老太太桑迪,支走等桑迪购物出门的出租车,装作偶遇载她回家。
好心地把购物袋提进家门,虽然桑迪显得有点抗拒。
简发现桑迪一个人住,房间里堆着很多旧物。
在她的“逼问”下,桑迪说她每周六会去玩宾果(一种赌博游戏)。
接着,简就出现在了玩宾果的桑迪旁边。
顺路捎她回家时,简试探性问她:你玩宾果,赢过钱吗?
简的意思是:如果你经常赢,这钱对你可能就不算什么。
但老太太想错了,立马防狼喷雾伺候,还招来了警察。
警察证明了简的清白,之后几天简都没再来找过她。
桑迪有些愧疚,主动打电话和简道歉。
第一次做客的白水,第二次做客的热茶,两人的关系上了新台阶。
桑迪告诉简自己的些许过往,丈夫去世,她常去墓地看望。
丈夫生前是个职业赌徒,给桑迪赢下余生都花不完的钱。
简的愧疚心少了许多,但另一种同情又升了上来。
她是个小演员,有一定的名气,在街边和茶时有粉丝把她认出来。
一个动作,职业性质暴露无遗。
拍爱情动作片。
也许因为这些,母亲变着法找理由,不愿见她。
她也是一个人,和桑迪一样。
另一面,简的室友偶然间发现了她的巨款,但这部片子没有转变成“揭露人性”。
室友没有动,只是旁敲侧击的暗示简:把钱用在真正在乎并需要它的人身上。
因简要出活动,就拜托桑迪照看“小明星”一周。
但桑迪弄丢了它,步履蹒跚的不断寻找,回去的时候自己一个人险些崩溃大哭。
她最后把“小明星”交给了简,并拒绝她的一切邀请。
简说她阴晴不定,其实她只是太害怕失去。
桑迪喜欢巴黎,却从未去过法国,简拿出最后的巨款,买机票定酒店。
说要带桑迪去巴黎,看望埃菲尔铁塔,漫步香榭丽舍大街。
多年不赢的桑迪,还赢得了游戏,笑的像个孩子。
也许上次胜利丈夫还在他身旁,但这次换成了简。
原本不同意的桑迪,也接受了法国旅行的邀请。
两人准备行李,想象着法国男人的浪漫,巴黎的文艺小资,简哄得桑迪乐个不停。
另一面简与室友闹翻,室友一心憧憬着简把钱用在自己身上。
两人彻底撕破脸后,简搬了出去。
室友还去找桑迪,揭穿了她伪善的面具:她有一笔属于你的钱。
她对你好并不是把你当朋友,而是心里有愧。
我原以为桑迪会愤怒,拒绝和简去巴黎。
但没有,她装了满满一大箱行李,好像装走了一切值得的回忆。
提议在去机场的路上,去一趟她丈夫的墓地。
她借故让跑的快的简,去把花放在墓上。
简到墓前才发现这里有两块墓碑。
一块是桑迪的丈夫,另一块是她18岁的女儿。
关于她女儿的事,桑迪从未提起。
简把桑迪当作朋友亲人,桑迪也把简看作上天赐予自己的女儿,至少从这一刻开始。
车驶向远方机场,飞往桑迪热爱一生的巴黎。
影片标签是「情色」,我却只看到了「温情」。
大尺度的AV拍摄情节有点突兀,倒是拉低了影片的评价。
女主德丽·海明威,超模出身,是作家海明威的曾外孙女。
老太太桑迪(贝塞德卡·约翰森 饰)从小也想当演员,在70多年后终如愿以偿。
虽然没有经验,但她对的睿智稳重,让一切都刚刚好。
影片2012年11月上映,老太太本人也在2013年4月去世。
我想她是如愿了吧,4月正是蔷薇花初绽的日子。
坚韧,美丽,就算无人理睬也静静的开在篱笆外。
看着汽车驶向远方,我想她们可能不会再回来……
4 ) 最后的结局。
Sadie在知晓Jane的秘密之后,亦然愿意与Jane一起前往巴黎,但是要求先去一趟亡夫的墓园,这次她让Jane代替她去献花,意在让Jane发现S亡夫旁边的墓碑——Sadie的女儿(1951-1969),她从来不曾向Jane提及她有一个十八岁就早逝的女儿。而Jane回过头向Sadie的方向望去,她亦明白了一切,老太太当初为什么那么抗拒难以靠近的原因。还有一幕就是当Jane寄放在Sadie家的狗走失后Sadie寻找时那种绝望与无助,以及将小狗归还给Jane时试图将她们撵出她的世界她的生活,她经历过丧夫丧女之痛,已经无法承受任何形式的失去了,不曾拥有就不会害怕失去,不是吗。最后的镜头给了太多让我们可以遐想的东西,她们之间已经建立了一种类似母女的感情,这种感情让Sadie原谅了Jane并重拾行李一起去巴黎,像每个父母原谅子女一样,而Jane也得到了无法从母亲那里得到的东西。
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5 ) so what
整部片子就是一个那又怎样的调调。
我拍porn video又怎样,我不也是热爱生活装饰房间,关爱弱小,收获意外之财会惴惴不安,认真工作,真诚待友。
她拍porn拿我钱又怎样,我一个孑然一身的老太婆有花不完的钱,她能载我去逛超市,陪我玩bingo,还想着带我去巴黎圆梦。
某些人道貌岸然,自以为是,就算面子再好看那又怎样。
ps:衣服真好看。
thermos真的可以做一个漂亮的vase。
6 ) 动物园里的小木屋
Starlet竟然是狗,是推动剧情的关键角色……译名就很随意,
女孩的友谊也是自私的,不允许背叛,没想到被上百岁的老奶奶挖了墙角
喜欢女主这种无欲无求、善良单纯的妹子,1w刀花了这么久还有钱买机票
拍AV一段就很突兀,可能用职业来和女主内心形成对比吧
本来当做爽片打算快进hi一下~~~结果看到热水瓶里装了钱,马上2x播放速度改成正常,看来一夜暴富的梦停不了啊
Mikey真是精打细算,过日子小能手,就是对女友太吝啬了
最后感慨一下,动物园里破败的房子好像之前带全家旅游住过的丛林小木屋,没人居住终会落得破败不堪……害怕自己到了老奶奶那个年纪一个人去超市、玩bingo,凄凉悲惨,就如同风中摇曳的木屋
我们带着创伤生活,就像蔷薇的刺。我们可以预防失去,却学不会对爱免疫。
淡黃的色調也很好看。整個故事線沒有那麼集中,但最後的抒情比他其他的作品都要用力。
一万刀能换到的,我想象不到更多了
视角还挺有想法的
矫情又做作,豆瓣小清新的脑残评分
其实是个对老套路做了细致修正改良之后的结果,中后段钝感明显,整体可看度还是挺高的。边缘人+限制级噱头,似乎是肖恩贝克标配啊。
简在展台后面绽放着微笑、在床上表演着高潮,放纵春光却从不觉得自己被需要。唯有跟老太晒着太阳,听她聊起年轻时的那场动物园求婚,简才真正像个少女一样怀春,愿有人待她如此。从超市接她回家、陪她玩宾果、带她去巴黎,只有与她相伴才真切感受自己被需要。青花暖瓶里藏着一根引信,绽放了她的生活。
真的是好干净的一部片子,女孩与老人的交心过程,两人心照不宣地知道了一些对方的秘密。海明威孙女的腿好正,Besedka 演得很出色。女优这个设定可能就是为了与 Jane 在日常生活中的单纯善良形成落差,不过 AV 床戏部分真是太大尺度了,简直一览无余。
年度最佳温情+意外结局啊 PS女主竟然是海明威孙女
意外的很好看啊 虽然镜头色调太像mv什么的吧 但是故事表演都超级舒服啊 女主是海明威的曾孙女你们都知道了 老太太拍完这片就死了你们也知道了 但是你们知道那个和她拍毛片的就是我昔日偶像Manuel Ferrara大神嘛!以为james deen和lilo拍文艺片就够高端了 manuel哥哥比他更厉害啊 果然法国人就是品味好
海明威还有这么漂亮的曾外孙女啊?!
她死了?我怎么没有看出来?
肖恩贝克早期作品,初心未变,后期的电影都是源于这里的根源。依旧喜欢肖恩贝克对边缘人的关注和情感处理,他有自己的一套人际关系和情感的处理方式,很吵很流行但也最能触及人心。女主是海明威孙女还蛮惊讶的。
⒈《橘色》后再接再厉观看《待绽蔷薇》,发现肖恩·贝克作品的配乐再次挺对我的耳口,虽然这部里面反复使用同一段配乐;⒉妈妈咪呀,女主竟然是海明威的亲曾孙女;⒊不用借位而是真操实干的AV戏份,真是让我吃了一惊;⒋亲爱的眼睛,对不起,在你犯困想休息的时候,还让你坚持看完电影,辛苦你了!……
爱丽·帕克再现,基调暖了很多,可惜女主演技没有Naomi那样出神入化。
很好的故事. 画面美. 素颜女主美绝了!特别是她无限长美腿啊啊啊!
暖黄色的色调,很明朗,温暖,很符合小清新的感觉。演员们全程演技在线,老奶奶和德丽的情感其实也温暖了他们两个自己吧。很适合一个人午后静静地看。
Starlet 是Sean Baker自家的吉娃娃。老太太也是从小就想做演员,70多年后终于如愿以偿,饰演一个老太太,懵懂或睿智,一切似乎都刚刚好。绝美的结尾。
敢拿钱敢拍片敢真操,洗
暖瓶温水,至清至澈。先看<橘色>,待绽<蔷薇>,一切刚刚之好。肖恩贝克不光有两把刷子,还有两个一样的瓶子。一个盛水,一个装酒。一个复古精致,一个小巧玲珑。一个暖阳春光,一个花枝招展。一个是平平静静的和和气气,一个是吵吵闹闹的和和美美。这才是生活。克制的胜利。